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now, with just 11 days until the fiscal cliff, it seems the tea party is leading the gop into chaos. is there a way out? >> no, not for them. they seem to be operating as if they have some type of leverage. as if january 1st, we hit default and there's some type of crisis everybody has to respond to. that's not at all the case. what happens is taxes go up on a lot of people and pentagon spending gets slashed. what they're worried about is the tea party in their own districts. so they don't want to vote to raise taxes. you know, they'd rather just see what harry reed and obama can do and let boehner just kind of twist in the wind here. >> you know, maria, you did that impression because when boehner's conference meeting was over and he admitted he didn't have to votes, it stunned the gop. i'm looking at a meeting where mike coffman said i've never seen anything like it where leadership just completely backed down. it is stunning. >> i think what ryan says is absolutely right. the problem right now with the gop is it's basically eating itself. and there's no place for them to go. not o
now, with just 11 days until the fiscal cliff, it seems the tea party is leading the gop into chaos. is there a way out? >> no, not for them. they seem to be operating as if they have some type of leverage. as if january 1st, we hit default and there's some type of crisis everybody has to respond to. that's not at all the case. what happens is taxes go up on a lot of people and pentagon spending gets slashed. what they're worried about is the tea party in their own districts. so they...
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and 53% say they trust president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff. compared to just 36% who trust republicans in congress. also today speaker boehner said he wouldn't rule out an agreement to raise taxes as part of a fiscal cliff deal. but he also said there's no progress. this is what winning looks like. joining me now, e.j. dionne and thank you both for your time. senator solis, the jobless rate is at a four-year low. that's quite an achievement. >> yes, reverend re. but we still need to do more. in sectors like retail and health care and tourism and hospitality. we need to do more because people are still suffering. we've got to put jobs back in infrastructure and construction and put our teachers. that's why the president is working so hard so we don't go off the fiscal cliff so we keep the most vulnerable people out of harm's way. to pay $2,200. we've got to talk about fairness here and i'm very excited that the public is listening to the message that the president has made very, very clear. >> 146,000 new private sector jobs last month but one
and 53% say they trust president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff. compared to just 36% who trust republicans in congress. also today speaker boehner said he wouldn't rule out an agreement to raise taxes as part of a fiscal cliff deal. but he also said there's no progress. this is what winning looks like. joining me now, e.j. dionne and thank you both for your time. senator solis, the jobless rate is at a four-year low. that's quite an achievement. >> yes, reverend re. but we still need to...
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breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators
breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle...
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the real attention will be on this massive, $60.3 trillion debt, this fiscal cliff. but, most importantly, this debt crisis next year. i'm not talking about what's going to happen in february or january. what i want to talk about is how do we solve this problem? how do we get the speaker? and the president actually opened up that back door. they're sitting there making back room deals. open up and let the american people see what's going on. i want to see what's going on. they won't tell either side what the deal-making is going on. i don't think that's the way to make policy. >> now, as you said, you and i may not agree. we've debated on this show, though you've always come on. are you saying that you believe that speaker boehner has a score card and is punishing you and three others for standing up and voting for what you believe to be right? >> that is apparently the case. we wrote a letter to the speaker and i think if you read the language of the letter, you walk through all of the washington and you see oh, yes, there was a score card and we were graded a certa
the real attention will be on this massive, $60.3 trillion debt, this fiscal cliff. but, most importantly, this debt crisis next year. i'm not talking about what's going to happen in february or january. what i want to talk about is how do we solve this problem? how do we get the speaker? and the president actually opened up that back door. they're sitting there making back room deals. open up and let the american people see what's going on. i want to see what's going on. they won't tell either...
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they walked away from the fiscal cliff deal. they passed antiunion laws in michigan, proposed new schemes to rig electoral college, planned new anti-choice bills in states like michigan, arkansas and texas. i mean, it's almost like the election never happened. absolutely. it's like they almost forgot who won. look, this is one they had during the primary. one of the most tenacious, one of the most ridiculous -- you just played a lot of clips. you left out some of the really good ones. they had all of those debates. people got to see and decide, look, all of these guys are extreme. every last one of them. and then they claim oh, we didn't have the best kand dot, who, by the way, tried to go to the cent er and folks figured that ut. they underestimated the fact that, reverend sharpton, they're playing to a small minority. they keep playing to this loud, small minority where most of america has moved on, including their children. the younger generation. that's where they're failing. >> well, marge, when you listen to joe say that,
they walked away from the fiscal cliff deal. they passed antiunion laws in michigan, proposed new schemes to rig electoral college, planned new anti-choice bills in states like michigan, arkansas and texas. i mean, it's almost like the election never happened. absolutely. it's like they almost forgot who won. look, this is one they had during the primary. one of the most tenacious, one of the most ridiculous -- you just played a lot of clips. you left out some of the really good ones. they had...
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poll, 54% approve of his handling of the fiscal cliff. only 26% support joan boehner. so the politics of it is not even working for them. they're purists, but they're not being practical, even politically. everyone as they don't stand for what you and i may think is the right thing. they're not even being practical about this. >> well, with taxes, it's so complicated because the republican party has basically got taxation at the heart of its ideology. so what they're almost in a position -- they've force ed ths into a corner where what they almost sl to do is let the cliff kick in so that then they can vote to go back and reinstate some tax cuts as opposed to somehow translating any kind of vote they take, you know, grover nordquist was going to stand up and say they raised taxes on the wealthy. at this point, they've got the situation so backwards, that they're going to have to let the cliff kick in. >> let me ask you this quickly. we've got some good economic news yesterday. weekly unemployment claims have fallen to the lowest since mar
poll, 54% approve of his handling of the fiscal cliff. only 26% support joan boehner. so the politics of it is not even working for them. they're purists, but they're not being practical, even politically. everyone as they don't stand for what you and i may think is the right thing. they're not even being practical about this. >> well, with taxes, it's so complicated because the republican party has basically got taxation at the heart of its ideology. so what they're almost in a position...
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>> earlier in the show you were talking about in the fiscal cliff, the barrier seems hemmed in. this plan b makes absolutely no sense except for the fact that the man is unable to get his right wing republican caucus to come to its senses. we spent last month after election day debating whether republicans had final ly learne their listen. surely, the majority of voters did not like what republicans stand for. that their brand was damaged. surely they would change before they found themselves a third party or extinct. it does not appear they have yet gotten the message. maybe they will eventually, but it doesn't look like they've gotten the message on taxes. i'm not sure that they've gotten the message on gun control, either. we'll see. >> you know, bob, the president recording to the new york times, he faces a critical choice. >> the agenda has changed and today the times says he's got to deal with whether he should tackle gunl reform in the next term. >> what does he do, bob? >> well, some deals are going to be made in the back room, frankly. if there's a fiscal cliff deal in
>> earlier in the show you were talking about in the fiscal cliff, the barrier seems hemmed in. this plan b makes absolutely no sense except for the fact that the man is unable to get his right wing republican caucus to come to its senses. we spent last month after election day debating whether republicans had final ly learne their listen. surely, the majority of voters did not like what republicans stand for. that their brand was damaged. surely they would change before they found...
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>> well, as we all know, he's got to deal with the so-called fiscal cliff right now. it will be resolved and i think the climate is right for immigration reform. he's going to have six months where he's going to do real business for congress. if they stimy him and they haven't seemed to evolve out of the whooping that just took place, the president is going to have to use executive power and authority. on an issue like climate there are many cases to be made that an executive doesn't need to work with congress because it's a national security. how many more record wildfires burning colorado he a new mek co-do we need? he's going to be able to lead regardless of whether congress wants to deal with him. let's hope that congressman boehner and others will get on the page of the president. >> douglas brinkley, thank you for your time tonight and a happy thanksgiving to you. >> back at you. >> coming up next, a "politicsnation" first. i had a dream. actually, it was more like a nightmare. you'll see it. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink.
>> well, as we all know, he's got to deal with the so-called fiscal cliff right now. it will be resolved and i think the climate is right for immigration reform. he's going to have six months where he's going to do real business for congress. if they stimy him and they haven't seemed to evolve out of the whooping that just took place, the president is going to have to use executive power and authority. on an issue like climate there are many cases to be made that an executive doesn't need...
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the same with what is going on in the fiscal cliff. so we're not really seeing any substantive recognition of why they lost. >> they've been very quiet. and to your point in your intro, you know, throwing up a few diverse spaces as they did at the rnc is not going to be nearly enough to cut it. i would say not only do we have to wait and see how do they handle the fiscal cliff and gun control debate and immigration. but then are those members of congress punished in primaries in the next election cycle? because that's the real problem here. only 15 members of the republican caucus are from districts that obama won. so we're talking about a group of people who are representing very red districts and are more concerned about the primary challenge than they are a general election challenge. so they're always thinking more about the maybe 30% of voters who are far to the right republican voters going to show up in a primary. they're thinking more about that group of folks than the broad center of the country in the general election elector
the same with what is going on in the fiscal cliff. so we're not really seeing any substantive recognition of why they lost. >> they've been very quiet. and to your point in your intro, you know, throwing up a few diverse spaces as they did at the rnc is not going to be nearly enough to cut it. i would say not only do we have to wait and see how do they handle the fiscal cliff and gun control debate and immigration. but then are those members of congress punished in primaries in the next...
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baited breath until january 3rd. >> the fiscal cliff is more of a curve. it wouldn't be some catastrophic thing that would kick in right away. they'd actually have until the 15th of january until most of the first paychecks were coming out. they would have time to fix this because everybody would be voting for a tax cuts. so if all of the tax ruts from the bush era went away, they'd be voting on a middle class tax for everybody, $250,000 and less. that's something that boehner could get substantial votes for. even as crazy and inlogical as it sounds, it's crazy if a guy from oklahoma, not even in a swing state, if he's saying it's over, it's over. boehner just can't admit it. >> now, there is also a talk about fill bu abo about filibustering but hair said something. let me read the comment from dan five officer. the president has said that hasn't changed in the president's supports majority leader reid's efforts to reform the filibuster process. it's pretty heavy. >> it is. it depends on who is in control of senate and the congress as far as how far a deba
baited breath until january 3rd. >> the fiscal cliff is more of a curve. it wouldn't be some catastrophic thing that would kick in right away. they'd actually have until the 15th of january until most of the first paychecks were coming out. they would have time to fix this because everybody would be voting for a tax cuts. so if all of the tax ruts from the bush era went away, they'd be voting on a middle class tax for everybody, $250,000 and less. that's something that boehner could get...
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they have to talk about the fiscal cliff. they have to go ahead and talk about a lot of the entitlement programs but they should talk right now about immigration and this is an opportunity for the republican party to have a come to jesus moment and it solidifies president obama to say, you know, i am the president of the civil rights first talking about don't ask -- repealing don't ask, don't tell, now talking about immigration, our second civil rights movement, and it also solidifies the latino vote for the democratic party for years to come. >> i noticed tonight we had mr. axelrod on and he mentioned immigration and 71% of latinos did vote for the president yesterday. a very large number. congressman cleaver, when you look at the issues facing the congress and this administration, deficit deduction, tax reform, climate change, alternate energy, what do you think is the possible bipartisan ent tray to begin this conversation of new spirit in washington? >> well, i think that we've got to be very careful when we start off aft
they have to talk about the fiscal cliff. they have to go ahead and talk about a lot of the entitlement programs but they should talk right now about immigration and this is an opportunity for the republican party to have a come to jesus moment and it solidifies president obama to say, you know, i am the president of the civil rights first talking about don't ask -- repealing don't ask, don't tell, now talking about immigration, our second civil rights movement, and it also solidifies the...
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the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. and i think the other thing you need to understand about this 800 billion is that as former president clinton said, the arithmetic is there. it still doesn't added a up. i think this is the problem that they are going to have with the heritage foundation. i'm not a fan of the heritage foundation. they are a conservative group. they do primarily more research than they do anything else and what they have done is chosen a man who has very limited research experience. they clearly have decided to politicize the heritage foundation more so than it's ever been politicized before and then secondly boehner has this problem. eric cantor. he is in the same position caesar was in. and that is, knives are pointed at his back every time he turns around. >> well, congressman, the point that i think is so interesting, most americans is here was a guy, senator jim demint, that said i'm going to break president obama. they started plotting the night of the inauguration. they started meeting. they sai
the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. and i think the other thing you need to understand about this 800 billion is that as former president clinton said, the arithmetic is there. it still doesn't added a up. i think this is the problem that they are going to have with the heritage foundation. i'm not a fan of the heritage foundation. they are a conservative group. they do primarily more research than they do anything else and what they have done is chosen a man who has very limited research...
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the fact is, the president could go over this fiscal cliff and at least politically for him there's not a lot of cost to it. there's some real cost to american families and particularly to the most vulnerable. the president from that position may certainly be trying to pull us back from it. but politically there's no reason not to head over. yes, you'll see your taxes increase on january 1st. but you don't have to write a check on january 2nd. he'll have time, then, to introduce the obama tax cuts and basically dare the republican -- the 113th congress not to vote for him. >> when he puts out his plan, then you hear, chris, i was very intrigued by the statement that charles made on fox, that the obama offer is worse than what was offered to general lee at the end of the civil war. listen to this. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an insulting deal. what git near offered on the screen, robert e. lee was offered better deals and he lost the civil war. this is almost unheard of. mine, what do they expect? they obviously expect republicans to cave on everything. i think republican
the fact is, the president could go over this fiscal cliff and at least politically for him there's not a lot of cost to it. there's some real cost to american families and particularly to the most vulnerable. the president from that position may certainly be trying to pull us back from it. but politically there's no reason not to head over. yes, you'll see your taxes increase on january 1st. but you don't have to write a check on january 2nd. he'll have time, then, to introduce the obama tax...
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a new poll shows republicans will take the blame if a deal isn't reached and we go over the fiscal cliff. 53% say it's on republicans. half that, 27%, will blame the president. this is progress. this is change. if president obama can break republicans on tax increases, this could redefine american politics. it would help to change our politics in very important ways. and who knows what else may be possible. joining me now is krystal ball and richard wolffe. thank you for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> thanks, reverend. krystal, how big a moment will it be if the president gets the republicans to cave on tax increases? >> i mean, it really is sort of hard to understate how significant that would be. it would es seshlgsentially mar end of when george w.h. bush led taxes. we had the contract for america. that in some ways was the precursor of the tea party and this very extreme rhetoric, us versus them rhetoric, where rather than talking about nuance differences between positions you call the president's health care bill socialism and yell about death panels and caricature thin
a new poll shows republicans will take the blame if a deal isn't reached and we go over the fiscal cliff. 53% say it's on republicans. half that, 27%, will blame the president. this is progress. this is change. if president obama can break republicans on tax increases, this could redefine american politics. it would help to change our politics in very important ways. and who knows what else may be possible. joining me now is krystal ball and richard wolffe. thank you for being here tonight....
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. >> dammit, i gets it's time i explain to these good people about the fiscal cliff. think of the economy as the car and the rich man as the driver. if you don't give the driver all the money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it's just commonsense. >> finally someone on the right willing to tell the truth. but here's the thing. this time it doesn't matter if mr. burns, speaker boehner, or the tea party try to hold the american people hostage just to get what they want. the president isn't going to budge. >> so i want to sq thank you both for coming on the show tonight. congresswoman, let me start with you. is the gop serious about holding the economy hostage again just to get what they want? >> well, think about the cards that they are holding. they are in favor of tax cuts for the rich. they want to cut tax care programs and medicare and make seniors pay and threaten the economy of the united states of america by defaulting on payments or at least to threaten that. this is not a very popular position among the public. in fact, they will be -- i think it's a suicide miss
. >> dammit, i gets it's time i explain to these good people about the fiscal cliff. think of the economy as the car and the rich man as the driver. if you don't give the driver all the money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it's just commonsense. >> finally someone on the right willing to tell the truth. but here's the thing. this time it doesn't matter if mr. burns, speaker boehner, or the tea party try to hold the american people hostage just to get what they want. the president...
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al, we're not facing a battle over a fiscal cliff as they say as much as a battle over the fiscal soul of this nation. we need a pathway to financial sustainability, but will it include all of us or not? will it include those white sox jesus called the least of these, is poorest and vulnerable and the issue of biblical fairness is here. should we now really give a tax breaking to 98% of the american people, working families especially low income families and kids. doesn't that make sense? isn't that fair and the wealthy pay their fair share. so for us, this isn't just a political issue. there are religious issues involved here. and i raised those today at the white house with the president. >> it's a lot of drama back and forth outside, but the president seemed real calm. he seemed firm. he listened to each one of us. we went back and forth, agreements, disagreements. but he seemed very calm and resolute that the 98% of america should not have to pay higher taxes just to hold them hostage for 2% to continue to get their tax cut. i think that's one thread that we saw firm by the preside
al, we're not facing a battle over a fiscal cliff as they say as much as a battle over the fiscal soul of this nation. we need a pathway to financial sustainability, but will it include all of us or not? will it include those white sox jesus called the least of these, is poorest and vulnerable and the issue of biblical fairness is here. should we now really give a tax breaking to 98% of the american people, working families especially low income families and kids. doesn't that make sense? isn't...
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if we go off the fiscal cliff and all those good economic numbers turn south, the question is who's going to be blamed for this. a lot of what the president's doing now is making sure that he's not the one who's going to be blamed, that it will be the republicans. that, in turn, puts him in a better bargaining position. >> now, victoria, in 2004 president obama, after his re-election, said he earned political capital. but he wasn't able to accomplish some of his biggest second-term goals. let me show you what mr. bush had to say at that point. >> i earned capital in the campaign, political capital. now i intend to spend it. it is my style. that's what happened in -- after the 2000 election. i earned some capital. i've earned capital in this election and i'm going to spend it. >> but he spent it but he didn't get a lot of what he was trying to push done. is the president, by continuing to go out, continuing a campaign after election day, sort of learning also, not only from what he might not have done before, but what george bush and other incumbent presidents may not have done in their se
if we go off the fiscal cliff and all those good economic numbers turn south, the question is who's going to be blamed for this. a lot of what the president's doing now is making sure that he's not the one who's going to be blamed, that it will be the republicans. that, in turn, puts him in a better bargaining position. >> now, victoria, in 2004 president obama, after his re-election, said he earned political capital. but he wasn't able to accomplish some of his biggest second-term goals....
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cliff. hugh says, no one makes better use of technology than our president. and mindy says, she loves the presidential seal on the cover of the laptop. i agree, mcimi. we've got more of speaker boehner's offer. first, we want to hear what you think. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> we're back on "politicsnation" with more on speaker boehner's counteroffer to president obama. the republican house leader wants $2.2 trillion in spending cuts. and how would he do it? republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich. unbelievable. instead, they want to slash billions from health care, raise the medicare eligibility a
cliff. hugh says, no one makes better use of technology than our president. and mindy says, she loves the presidential seal on the cover of the laptop. i agree, mcimi. we've got more of speaker boehner's offer. first, we want to hear what you think. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat?...
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cliff negotiations. again, once again, they're going to hold the process that the american people did not much enjoy. and they're going to do that to try to get something very unpopular, which is taking away a lot of people's medicare benefits. ak they're only going to see more intransigent work stream. more out of touch of where the american people are. governor, carl rove was with bill o'riley. watch this. >> i think what the speaker is trying to get across is at this point, the republicans are pretty much in disarray. they can't compete with the organized democratic machine. that's why romney lost. >> they are in disarray. they doept have a clue of what to do. they're not in any way consistent with what they want. they want taxes raised on the rich. it spurred 23.5 million new jobs in six years. americans get that stuff. they've got to be voiced and sustained. by the way, all of this is political calculation. crystal is right. they're worried about the primary. good lord, have some guts and do what's
cliff negotiations. again, once again, they're going to hold the process that the american people did not much enjoy. and they're going to do that to try to get something very unpopular, which is taking away a lot of people's medicare benefits. ak they're only going to see more intransigent work stream. more out of touch of where the american people are. governor, carl rove was with bill o'riley. watch this. >> i think what the speaker is trying to get across is at this point, the...
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cliff made it very, very clear. and the fact that he's going out on the stump now to talk to the american people who already agree that the wealthiest americans need to pay more. the fact it that he said he's not going to let senior citizens-wil citizens-wi -- half of all americans make under # $2,000 a year. are you serious, you're going to take it out of those people and have them pay down the deficit? no. but since we all agree that the middle class tax cuts should not be eliminated, he's right, let's just go ahead and do that right now. but i do not see this president selling out not after 332 electoral votes. no, he is not going to do that. >> now, cynthia, the fact is that the congresswoman is right, according to nbc exit polling, americans want to see the wealthy taxes raised when you look at the k3i9 polls. 70% of democrats, 59% of independents, 42% of republicans. so it would be the will of the american people when you look at the exit polls of what they want. and yet we're faced with the fact that republic
cliff made it very, very clear. and the fact that he's going out on the stump now to talk to the american people who already agree that the wealthiest americans need to pay more. the fact it that he said he's not going to let senior citizens-wil citizens-wi -- half of all americans make under # $2,000 a year. are you serious, you're going to take it out of those people and have them pay down the deficit? no. but since we all agree that the middle class tax cuts should not be eliminated, he's...
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one of the two big issues is the fiscal cliff where, once again, they are the party of the wealthy defending the 2% against getting a tax cut. maybe they will have to get into it eventually. but there are going to be weeks and weeks before they give into them of defending the wealthy. not a good look. and what's the other big story of the week? susan rice, where they are wrongfully attacking a person who has done nothing wrong. they are not searching for answers. they are searching for demonizing a black person. who has done nothing wrong. it doesn't look good and pushes blacks and women to say this party doesn't represent me in any way. plus, what's the other big issue that they need to get around on? immigration. issues that matter to latinos. are they doing anything positive? not repels latinos, as mike murphy said. no, they don't. they don't even discuss the issues going forward. i think the party is looking exactly where it was right before they lost. >> and i don't think anyone is calling anyone racist. i think you are really playing to your weaknesses when you only attack susan rice.
one of the two big issues is the fiscal cliff where, once again, they are the party of the wealthy defending the 2% against getting a tax cut. maybe they will have to get into it eventually. but there are going to be weeks and weeks before they give into them of defending the wealthy. not a good look. and what's the other big story of the week? susan rice, where they are wrongfully attacking a person who has done nothing wrong. they are not searching for answers. they are searching for...